I don’t really see why environmental policy shouldn’t be mentioned in the contribution policy. If it’s there as the justification for why a part of the policy exists and it is accurate about what the environmental impacts actually are, it seems to fit in fine within the policy? Not wanting the point there doesn’t make KDE pro-AI (since they might just want to mention it elsewhere), but it is valid criticism if they don’t acknowledge it anywhere.

However I do feel that the other points in the post are weaker. KDE’s stance is in line with what the SFC recommends when it comes to AI in FOSS, specifically around contributions. I came across the SFC recommendations a while back and it’s held up well in similar discussions so far: https://sfconservancy.org/llm-gen-ai/llm-backed-generative-ai-recommendations.html

Devs rejecting any notion of transparency by disclosing AI usage in code submissions

I don’t think they rejected the transparency part? I agree that transparency is necessary. Rather their reply is telling the commenter to not shun people. Both of those points are reflected in the SFC recommendations (point 5 on disclosure and point 3 on shunning)

And all of this is coming right after the debacle with an AI slop project being allowed to give a presentation at Akademy, and the person asking how this was allowed being blocked by KDE

I get the feeling that KDE does not curate much of anything, for better or for worse. There is a good bit of content in the KDE ecosystem that is outdated or straight up shovelware.

On top of that, Akademy is a conference that is intended for discussion, rather than a presentation about KDE.

Akademy features a 2-day conference with presentations on the latest KDE developments, followed by 4 days of workshops, Birds of a Feather (BoF) and coding sessions. It is an opportunity to meet key KDE contributors, learn about the latest features and enjoy the great atmosphere. You will meet developers, artists, translators, upstream and downstream maintainers, users, and free and open software industry leaders from all over the world

It wouldn’t work well if they had to curate every presentation at such an event. It is indeed deceitful to imply that the presenter is going to change the direction of KDE if in reality they rarely contribute and have little say in the direction of KDE. Also IMO it’s good that they let that guy participate in the conversation because it let everyone else raise points about why the idea is bad.

The difference is that every form of domestic abuse is awful and should face zero tolerance, whereas with “AI tools” there is still nuance in what that phrase means.

Even if we talk specifically about generative AI, there are models trained on only licensed data, and it’s possible to train and run models locally for the specific tasks that it is good for. The end of the day, it is an algorithm and there are some tasks that it is better at doing.

The point the other user is making is that a contribution policy should take those factors into account.

IMO a more effective principled stance would be to ban the use of specific “AI” tools that are proven to be abusive.

Possibly Colorado, I found this

https://platform.openmeet.net/groups/conifer-fosstech-and-lug-tkueen

This is in line with how a lot of large open source projects are dealing with it

• don’t force people to use an AI tool
• don’t be a jerk to people who choose to use a tool with AI
• you are responsible for how you interact with the project. If it wouldn’t be ok if done by a human, its not ok if done by a bot

They’re somewhat sandboxed, likely to be up to date, and it behaves similarly across different machines. It’s nice for GUI programs that don’t need access to the wider system, and it won’t mess with anything else that I already have installed. I guess it would have similar pros and cons as containerization with Podman/Docker?

I get the vast majority of my GUI programs from Flathub. I didn’t know there was a controversy with it, other than just wanting a different way of doing things.

With everything running, you’ll be able to launch arbitrary programs and have the windows placed within the Minecraft world as if they were in-game. Users can place the windows in any orientation and can interact with them like any other desktop environment. [EVVIE] has released all of the code under the GPL for anyone wanting to try it out or build on the project itself.

Oh, that’s not what I was expecting 😄

Disinformation is bad no matter which side it appears to be “helping”. It would be just as easy for the other side to intentionally spread disinformation on Wikipedia in order to discredit it.

Does it? I haven’t seen complaints about bricking, and limine should make it trivial to undo a bad update. It wouldn’t need a redownload

Also these stats aren’t based on downloads

I’m not familiar with Manjaro, what was wrong with it?

Limine is also a good reason for people who want the benefits of Arch but are worried about bad updates. Being able to rollback to an earlier snapshot in the boot menu is nice for new users

This one probably needs a NSFW filter, for “I was eating” reasons 😅

Neat :D

That’s not the only feature: if you place a file named .XCompose in your home directory, you can add custom combinations! So, if I want to send a heart, I can just hit Compose < 3 and I will get a ♥. Besides emoji, I also find myself often looking up various arrows and punctuation: now I can simply hit Compose - > and get a nice → arrow quickly.

We need a browser extension with a whitelist for accounts that are either verified, or created before 2022. If the extension gets popular and people start buying old accounts to post spam on, then it would also need a blacklist for confirmed spammers.

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The Easter eggs showing up is pretty solid evidence