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    6 months ago

    The argument that apes have never asked a question “is a classic example of overstatement,” said Heidi Lyn, a professor at the University of South Alabama’s Comparative Cognition and Communication Lab at the Department of Psychology and Marine Science.

    “There is plenty of evidence of apes asking questions, although the structure may not look exactly like humans asking questions,” Lyn explained.

    https://www.snopes.com/articles/467842/apes-questions-communicate/

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      If a chimpanzee looks its handler in the eyes and points to a banana, it may be interpreted that the ape is asking to have the banana. This, Hobaiter said, shows apes are capable of asking questions.

      Obviously not in the spirit of the question. No curiosity, no attempt to learn about what’s going on around them. The article has no examples of real questions, so to me I’d say the meme rings true.

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        6 months ago

        That’s crazy. You think monkeys aren’t curious about the world around them?

        They just don’t look to humans for answers, they look to humans for treats

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          I have no idea if they’re curious about the world around them. But that’s also not the question at hand.

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            6 months ago

            It is the question at hand. It’s a question about the mental process of animals

            The question isn’t are they curious - we know they are. The question is why they don’t ask humans questions when you teach them how to speak

            The answer is - it’s because you’re not speaking gorilla, the gorilla is learning a foreign language, which it learned by being motivated by food.

            Animal languages have a different grammar to human languages. When they ask questions, they often do it by making statements to be agreed with or corrected. They might even disagree, and assert the statement again in reply

            You have to meet animals halfway… Well, really like 10% of the way since they’re the ones learning to speak to us in our languages

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              6 months ago

              These people aruginf against the intelligence of animals would fit right in with people who encounter savages on their voyages.

              That label was based on cultural differences and these fools are too ignorant to see they are making the same mistake across the difference in species.

              It’s quite fascinating. Maybe if we give them treats they can be trained to recognize their superiority only exists in their mushy little brains.

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                6 months ago

                Lol right? It’s crazy how far on a limb they go, despite interacting with dogs

                How often do we talk about how dogs want this or that, how they’re thinking of doing something “bad”, how they look so guilty they tell on themselves

                But yeah, nothing going on up there. It’s all projection, they’re just dumb animals and humans are super extra special