Still using these obsolete Linux commands? Perhaps it is time to look for alternatives.

Still using these obsolete Linux commands? They might be popular from the olden days but perhaps it is time to look for alternatives.

  • HeartyOfGlass@piefed.socialEnglish
    3·
    15 days ago

    Listed programs:

    • scp - “potentially deprecated”
    • e/fgrep - replaced with grep flags
    • net-tools, which includes
      • netstat
      • arp
      • route
      • iptunnel *nameif
    • ifconfig
    • iwconfig
    • iptables
    • pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zipEnglish
      3·
      21 days ago

      Replacement:

      • scp → rsync or sftp

      • egrep --> grep -E

      • fgrep --> grep -F

      • netstat --> ss

        • arp --> ip n
        • route --> ip route
        • iptunnel --> ip tunnel
        • nameif --> ip link

      • ifconfig --> ip

      • iwconfig --> iw

      • iptables --> nftables

      • lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        1·
        20 days ago

        rsync is cool but is nowhere a replacement for scp’s main use case. scp actually uses your SSH client settings file, whereas rsync doesn’t (it does have the opportunity to use a SSH command, which you then have to setup separately).

  • Admiral Patrick@dubvee.orgEnglish
    1·
    21 days ago

    The thing about these deprecated tools is that the replacements either suck, are too convoluted, don’t give you the same info, or are overly verbose/obtuse.

    ifconfig gave you the most relevant information for the network interfaces almost like a dashboard: IP, MAC address, link status, TX/RX packet counts and errors, etc. You can get that with ip but you’ve got to add a bunch of arguments, make multiple calls with different arguments, and it’s still not quite what ifconfig was.

    Similarly, iwconfig gave you that same “dashboard” like information for your wireless adapters. I use iw to configure but iwconfig was my go-to for viewing useful information about it. Don’t get me started on how much I hate iw’s syntax and verbosity.

    They can pry scp out of my cold dead hands.

    At least nftables is syntax-compatible.

  • twinnie@feddit.uk
    1·
    21 days ago

    Why did they even get rid of the net-tools stuff? Since everyone is still using them why not just bring them back? I don’t see how they can be a security issue. When I set up a new distro one of the first things I do is install it again.

    Even the article says that the reason scp is so popular is that it copies the cp syntax. Why constantly force people to relearn jobs they already know how to do?

    Rustscan is supposed to be so much faster than nmap but I still use nmap because I can’t be bothered learning another tool. Just use the same syntax for gods sake.