• Creat@discuss.tchncs.de
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      23 hours ago

      What would be the point in this PC parts economy? There would be like 7 people buying it.

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          22 hours ago

          Oh.

          …I dunno what to tell you, then.

          If you’re on a 5800X3D, AM5 is terrible upgrade value now. If you wait for DDR5 prices to come down, it will indeed be a “dead end platform” when you buy, as I don’t think AMD will release AM6 unless it’s DDR6.

          If you do workstation stuff, get DDR4 threadripper (or even a fire sale EPYC server), and re-use half your RAM, but other than that I have no good advice.

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              5 hours ago

              That’s basically my old PC!! I felt it was great for the last 6 years but I didn’t regret upgrading recently. Felt we really hit a wall finally with gaming tech.

              Rocking 5700x3d and 4070S now can play literally anything (that doesn’t have kernal level anti cheat)

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              22 hours ago

              Oh.

              If you need to upgrade, grab a 5800XD then (or any 5000 series X3D CPU), plus a mobo if you need it. Re-use your RAM. It’s significantly faster; you’ll be set for awhile without busting the bank on DDR5.

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                22 hours ago

                Well then I’m even further invested in a platform that’s been outdated for years.

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                  22 hours ago

                  It’s not though. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with a 5800X3D now, and there won’t be 2 years from now. It’s still fast, and a supremely practical choice.

                  Heck, if I lost my whole board+RAM now, that’s exactly what I’d get. I’d go back to AM4, and wait it out till AM6 or something good from Intel, because there’s nothing deficient about a 5800.

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                    21 hours ago

                    There’s absolutely nothing wrong with a 5800X3D now

                    Sure, other than it being several years old and outdated?

                    there won’t be 2 years from now

                    2 years is all I’m supposed to get!?

                    wait it out till AM6

                    …that’s what I’m saying.

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                  21 hours ago

                  I wouldn’t worry about what is “outdated” anymore, everything is going to stall at these prices and older PCs will retain value and usefulness much longer. Look at the actual performance for the actual dollars spent. Locally I can get a 5800X for 1/3 of the price of a 9700X + 32GB ddr5 + mobo. 1/3 of the price for 70% of the performance seems like a no brainer, but it depends on your workload and requirements.

                  I’ve been on am4 for 6 years and will prob stay on it for another 5 years at this rate.

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                    21 hours ago

                    What do you mean “everything is going to stall”? Like they’re going to stop developing hardware?

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      22 hours ago

      zen 7 and ddr6. there won’t be any ddr6 for you or me or anyone else without an unlimited bank account until this data center bullshit collapses.

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        22 hours ago

        until this data center bullshit collapses.

        Yeah I figure that will happen first.

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      22 hours ago

      No point until there’s affordable consumer DDR6.

      And CAMM modules, if I were to bet.


      And that’s fine. PCIE5 is still underutilized, and big L3 cache can sort-of compensate for RAM speed.

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          18 hours ago

          Well because the same advantages for mobile platforms translate to desktop.

          Better signal integrity, higher speeds, lower latency and specifically for desktop better airflow in the case (+coolers no longer have to clear the height of the dimm).

          Downsides are ramm problem diagnosis and upgradabillity (have to buy a whole new module can’t partially upgrade like with dimm).