By your logic Framework is fascist. Is that’s what you are saying?

I had a look at this Tommy Robinson. Yes, if DHH expressed support for that guy he is at least someone supporting a fascist. So a rascist supporting a fascist. So yes, one could speculate of DHH being a fascist but the post where he referenced Robinson’s anti-immigration march (not Robinson directly) was exclusively about DHH’s racist ideas. If he opposes democratic institutions, rule of law or free and fair elections he is at least not openly communicating about that.

PS: I had a look at the list of projects and events Framework supports. I couldn’t finds any mention of Omarchy or Ruby on Rails from the sponsoring list from 2025 till now.

Opinionated in a Linux context means specific design choices, and a setup not for a wide audience but for a specific audience. In this case mostly programmers. That has nothing to do with “woke” or “non-woke”.

I have not been aware of it being pushed as “non-woke”. Can you add a primary source for that claim? I could not find “non-woke” anywhere on the Omarchy site or its manual.

I was nowhere saying that Hitler wasn’t fascist. A fascist needs to have at least the ambition to overthrow the democratic system with free and fair elections, rule of law and free media.

The BNP and Trump fulfill that criterion. Does DHH do so? If so, can you please provide me with some source for that claim? I wasn’t aware of that so far. He may very well be a secret fascist but anyone might be. So you speculate that he is a fascist because he is a racist. Fine, but that is speculation. Not every racist is a fascist even if there is some overlap.

I am aware of Asahi Linux (M1&M2). I am not aware of the other projects. Can you provide some links to those that provide a functional and usable OS for iPhone hardware. Which SOCs are they for?

The difference to other hardware, as far as I understand is that Apple offers very little documentation to third parties. Which is the reason why Asahi Linux is still stuck on M2 when there is already the M5 out. If it were so trivial, why don’t we have Asahi Linux for at least M3? It has been around for 3 years already.

Indeed, they aren’t locked, which is good. However, Apple does also nothing to document a lot of things for 3rd parties which makes it very difficult for them and requires them to do a lot of reverse engineering. Asahi is a great project but progress has been slow, not due to Asahi’s fault mind you. So we still have no M3 support and Apple is already moving to the M5.

So saying “hardware support hasn’t caught up yet” is putting it a bit mildly. Apple makes it as hard as it can for that to catch on, stopping short of locking it down. But not locking it down is already something and it enabled Asahi in the first place.

It doesn’t hurt to be precise with words but maybe that’s just me. A racist is not necessarily trying to overthrow a democratic government, a fascist is.

They did, I was not talking about the past though. I was talking about Apple Silicon.

x86 iMacs, yes. I was not talking about them. I was talking about Apple Silicon. I am not sure what makes removing Windows 11 so difficult, can’t you simply install over it, the disk is being formatted before the installation anyway. And once Windows 11 is gone so is copilot.

That said, your mileage with laptops varies, regarding hardware support. Often touchpad support or whatever is making some fuss.

I wrote “Strictly limited to MacOS, no Linux no nothing.”

To which you responded “Which, in the history of computing devices, certainly is nothing new. Apple, and others, has been doing this pretty much forever.”

So unless you did not articulate yourself clearly, that means exactly that you absolutely cannot do so. Which was false in the past. But for the Apple Neo it is largely true, unless you are talking about developing a solution yourself. There is nothing that works on it other than operating systems from Apple. If I am mistaken, please tell me which alternative OS does work on it.

On the other side, I have a Framework Desktop, simply because that was the only option for buying the Max 395+ on an ITX board, for my custom fanles PC project. I had zero problems installing off the mill Linux distros on it.

Well, if you go deep down like that, indeed everything is political. Then let’s be more concrete. What political aspect of Omarchy itself do you find appaling. Let me hear of it. No not the guy developing it. You said, everything is political so tell me what is the political nature of Omarchy itself that is to be opposed.

No you can’t, not any Linux. Just a single one, Asahi Linux and that only on M1 and M2 nothing newer and that is not a flawless experience either and recommended only for those understanding the limitations.

But I wasn’t even talking about other MacBooks, I was talking about the Apple Neo and there not even Asahi Linux runs, at least I am not aware of any fork that would work. Correct me please if you know more.

That makes him a racist bad enough but does he also call for dictatorship or genocide? Because that is what Nazis did. If only the dictatorship applies to him, we can debate it at least if he fits the description Nazi.

But then, I find the guy horrible anyhow and I don’t care about Omarchy but like not everyone driving a Tesla is a right extreme, not everyone using Omarchy is one either.

Veganism may be political, but to construe selling sheep cheese as a political statement against veganism is absurd.

Maybe, it would be cool for sure. I was playing for a moment to get Apple silicon for Asahi, because it is such a great power efficient hardware. But even where Asahi is supported, for M1 and M2 it is still with some limitations. I opted for a Ryzen 395+ instead and get the full choice for Linux instead.

Yes the language was a bit colourful but the point remains.

M1/M2 and A18 Pro are not the same and Asahi, which is available for M1 and M2 cannot just run on an A18 Pro: https://github.com/rusch95/asahi_neo

I thought you’d also need adaptations of your drivers for an A18 Pro compared to an M4 but maybe I was mistaken there. Certainly M1 and M2 compatibility does not suffice.

I haven’t checked in a while. Maybe I misremembered from Fairphone. There the replacement parts are perfectly reasonably priced and even replacing the screen is dead simple. As far as it comes to repairability Framework laptops are certainly great though, maybe prices are still not all the way there though.

Oh, then I must have imagined the Mac I used years back with Windows just a false memory imprint I suppose. I was not saying that all of the above is a deal braker for everyone but it is definitely a deal breaker for some. Certainly if you want to use Linux, the Neo is simply not an option at all. Most Windows laptops are though and especially Framework laptops are very much so.

No, but Asahi Linux works only for M1 and M2 as of now. They need to reverse engineer a lot and want to get it working there well enough before even attempting M3. The Apple Neo is neither of those, it is an A18 Pro. Entirely different SOC.

I always suspected the miniature rail operators in the local city park are proponents of big rail feeding already the youngest with pro-rail propaganda!